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U of T vs Ryerson for Life Sciences

I’m in grade 12 and right now U of T (St. George) and Ryerson are my top choices for either a biology or chemistry major (or biochemistry but that’s only at u of t). I want to eventually become a high school bio/chem teacher (with both bio and chem as my teachables) which means i would most likely going to u of t for a master’s in education. I just really need some comments on the overall experience at Ryerson versus that of U of T. Also, would going to U of T mean it’s harder to maintain a higher GPA? Would going to U of T somehow increase my chances of getting into u of t for my masters? Anything helps (except comments about no teaching jobs of course)!

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  1. This post made my night. Thanks for that. When I first read the title, I thought the poster was another one of those kids aiming for medical school or dental school, but when it said teaching and GPA, I broke out laughing.
    OP, you really need to do some research. Getting into teacher's college is an absolute joke. We're not talking about law school and medical school here. Idiots become teachers in Canada. More importantly, the fact that you aren't even aware that U of T doesn't have a teacher's college makes your post all the more amusing and misinformed. If you're serious about your education, then do your research. U of T only has a masters degree in education, but got rid of their teacher's college years ago due to the glut of teachers and difficult job market. 
    Are you aware that there are concurrent education programs you can get into straight out of high school? These are the programs you should be considering. Secondly, research the job market. I know people who graduated from teacher's college 5 years ago who don't have jobs. It's a tough job market and teacher's colleges churn out teachers like a factory (you claim to be aware of it, but your post says otherwise). You don't need a high GPA to get in; a B average is sufficient. You don't need lawyer and doctor credentials here. I know people with B- averages with some C's who go into teacher's college. 
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/careers/management/how-aspiring-teachers-navigate-a-tight-labour-market/article35307960

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/education/nipissing-closes-joint-teaching-program-after-ontario-stanches-supply/article22111629

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-canadian-teachers-head-abroad-amid-tight-job-market-1.2426110

     
    https://www.universityaffairs.ca/features/feature-article/way-too-many-teachers

    https://www.thestar.com/business/2011/10/07/young_educated_and_unemployed.html

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/millennial-jobs-education-1.4009295

    https://forums.redflagdeals.com/how-teaching-career-these-days-2129522

    https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-news/more-teachers-looking-north-for-jobs-514050

    https://thetyee.ca/News/2014/10/28/Too-Many-Teachers-in-BC

    https://vancouversun.com/news/staff-blogs/too-many-teachers-but-b-c-deans-dont-favour-ontarios-approach

     
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/ontario-moves-to-halve-number-of-teachers-college-grads/article12357404

     
    https://globalnews.ca/news/1535379/teachers-struggling-to-make-ends-meet-look-for-second-jobs

     
    https://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-advice/careers-cafe/the-realities-of-unemployed-ontario-teachers

     
    https://torontosun.com/2014/02/21/teacher-jobs-in-ontario-are-scarce/wcm/8a1326d5-ef6c-4510-ad28-f9ac95e123ee
     
    https://www.macleans.ca/work/jobs/two-thirds-of-new-teachers-cant-find-full-time-work

    https://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2016/03/11/we-are-wasting-our-young-teaching-talent.html

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    • Thanks for your help and thanks for making me laugh at your post. More than half those articles are about  too many teachers in Canada, something everyone  already knows, and I am totally aware of it (I don't live under a rock!). And I've also read many of those months before, so I have done my research thank you very much. I guess it's my fault for not mentioning that I can only stay in Toronto because there is no way my family can afford staying on residence. And I am definitely not going to York university (even if they have a concurrent program) unless you convince me that York is not as bad as everyone says it is. And I wasn't aware that having a masters in education meant that you are not a teachers college, my bad. I want to do a four years undergrad and a masters in education anyway. And I know that your GPA doesn't need to be super high to get in but what I'm asking is, if going to U of T will utterly crush my GPA. Why is it that everyone who wants to become a teacher is discouraged to do so?

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